Indicators or rather a click and nowt else

Post by **rayofleamington** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 9:31 pm

why sawp the bulbs? does one side work and not the other?
Have you wiggled your fuses?? that can sometimes cure it.

Post by **rayofleamington** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 9:33 pm

ooh - finally got the stupid 'debug mode' message everyone else has mentioned.
avoided the double post by not hitting the back button

Post by **Kevin** » Thu Dec 18, 2003 6:50 am

Can an iffy indicator relay cause this sort of thing, or maybe something in the indicator assembly has gone faulty (I am not to good with electrics)

Post by **captchaos** » Thu Dec 18, 2003 9:21 am

OK HERES A LONG SHOT!
IF YOU SET THE INDICATORS TO THE FAULTY SIDE, DO THE EXTERNAL
LAMPS FLASH, IN MY EXPERIENCE, THE STALK LAMP FAILS TO WORK
WHEN ONE OR BOTH OF THE EXTERNAL LAMPS FAIL (MAY NOT BE THE
BULBS, USUAL FAULT IS THE FRONT LAMP HOLDER FAILS DUE TO
CORROSION. (ALSO MAKES THE BULB A B...... TO GET OUT), FAILING
THAT YOU HAVE A WIRING FAULT. I WOULD SUGGEST YOU GET HOLD OF
A 12V TEST LAMP AS A METER CAN SOMETIME GIVE FALSE READINGS..
MY CONTACT NO IS 01206 231793 (LEAVE A MESSAGE ON EXTN 1
DURING WORKING HOURS, & LEAVE YOUR CONTACT TELE NO.
ROB PASSFIELD AKA CAPT CHAOS

Post by **Gareth** » Thu Dec 18, 2003 11:19 am

If you're just getting a click, then try my own personal favourite dodge. Use a large screwdriver and whack the round flasher unit with the handle. This normally shocks it into doing something.

If it then works, it probably needs replacing, although mine soldiered on for over a year before I got around to it. It was very dented by then, mind, but it worked. Sort of.

Failing that, check all the earths - flashers and the earth for the flasher unit itself. Since you are getting a "click", it sounds like the unit is ascending towards the pearly gates and needs replacing. They're only a fiver or so, so it shouldn't be a problem. If you have the earlier large, square, 8-way relay for flashing brake lights (early 60's, after they got rid of the semaphores), then you might have trouble, as these are expensive and notoriously unreliable.

Good luck!

Post by **Kevin** » Thu Dec 18, 2003 11:50 am

Use a large screwdriver and whack the round flasher unit with the handle

Another good technical reply then Gareth

Post by **Gareth** » Thu Dec 18, 2003 12:24 pm

Nice to see my reputation is upheld once more...

Post by **Dizzi141** » Thu Dec 18, 2003 5:17 pm

hmmm, that sounds like my school of computing! If it doesn't work hit it! You can't damage it any more than it already was cos it wasn't working anyway!

Post by **rayofleamington** » Thu Dec 18, 2003 6:44 pm

erm.. what age is your car? I forgot.
Almost all of the Minor 1000's have the little rounds Lucas type flasher relay. This has no idea which way you turn the indicator stalk as it justs regulates the supply to the stalk.
If it works one side, then it's not the flasher relay.
Therefore either your switch is not connecting to the left hand indicator wiring, or there is a bad connection in the wiring, at the bulbs or at the earths.

Sometimes the switches don't make good connection due to wear or dirt. When it's in the left position, waggle it around aggresively to see if it makes a conection. Also try it jsut before the switched position, then try it just a bit further instead. Half the timie you can get a dirty swich contact to work again by waggling it. If it's worn/broken you can repair if you are mechanically minded - or you can pay a small fortune for one on e-bay.
After waggling with no success, the best way is to check the output using a voltmeter as already suggested.

Without a voltmeter, more effort is involved.

If you really think it's not the switch...
Either
a)
look under the dash for the wiring loom from the switch.
Swap the left hand indicator wires with the right hand - can you make the other bulbs flash?

Or B)
If your car has bullet connectors, then unplug the indicator wires at the left inner wing area and plug them in to the indicators at the other side! You either need to unplug the whole loom, or otherwise use a long jumper wire. (use haynes manual wiring diagram to work out which wire is required) If you can make the other side bulbs work this will tell you if it is the bulbs / bulb holder / earth etc..
If it doesn't work, then it's the switch or the wirning from the switch to the inner wings.

Post by **Matt** » Fri Dec 19, 2003 3:29 pm

Naughty Felix! you arn't allowed to overtake on the inside

Post by **rayofleamington** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 6:02 pm

as Felix thinks it was been driven by a .........

nice to see that the German MMOC members would feel welcome

Post by **Gareth** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 7:58 pm

I have emailed both nickthenurse and Matt, asking them to edit their posts, as they go against the guidelines from the T&Cs that we all agreed to on registering for the forum.

Morris Minor Owners Club

Indicators or rather a click and nowt else

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