Chassis number location 1966 convertible
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Chassis number location 1966 convertible
Hi all, new to the Morris Minor forum and ownership. Just about to buy a 1966 convertible for my daughter, it’s had loads of Charles Ware work, chassis, full Newton interior, servo disc brakes, f&r seatbelts, alternator, electronic dizzy but needs bodywork and paint re spray. It’s a genuine convertible with the MAT chassis number. It has the aluminium chassis plate but I’ve been told that there should be a number stamped into the bulkhead to the left of the battery, as you face it but I cannot find any trace of it, is this correct or should have the plate, only. Many thanks in advance and who would you recommend for paint and bodywork?
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Re: Chassis number location 1966 convertible
The body number is stamped on the right hand side of the bulkhead as you face it. It isn’t very obvious
I have looked and I do not have a suitable photo so I will go and take one now.......
I have looked and I do not have a suitable photo so I will go and take one now.......
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Re: Chassis number location 1966 convertible
By 1966 I believe the position of the stamped chassis number had moved to the front floor as pictured below.
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Re: Chassis number location 1966 convertible
Here you are (somewhat ashamed of my rust bucket.....). My car is a 1969 genuine convertible. I presume this is the number you refer to as being on the bulkhead in addition the the chassis number plate. The "T" in that number denotes tourer.
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Re: Chassis number location 1966 convertible
Thank you for your replies. The car has got a new floor but I didn't lift the carpet, it’s got all new carpet and underlay/insulation/sound deadening. I wonder if Charles Ware kept the metal of the original number to refit, ? I found the other long thin plate but the numbers didn’t seem correspond to the chassis number but I will recheck. Many thanks.
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Re: Chassis number location 1966 convertible
No the other long plate is the body number not the chassis number. That number is listed on a Heritage Certificate if the car has one.MichaelSimpkin wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 7:48 am Thank you for your replies. The car has got a new floor but I didn't lift the carpet, it’s got all new carpet and underlay/insulation/sound deadening. I wonder if Charles Ware kept the metal of the original number to refit, ? I found the other long thin plate but the numbers didn’t seem correspond to the chassis number but I will recheck. Many thanks.
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Re: Chassis number location 1966 convertible
If T is for tourer What would R stand for before number?
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Re: Chassis number location 1966 convertible
The Car/Body number was moved from the engine bulkhead to the driver's (RH) floor pan when the Elephant Trunk heater was put through the bulkhead in 1963 ish.
So of course many later cars have lost the stamped number when the floor has been replaced.
As regards the other numbers on the top thin long plates, see some of the detail given here:
viewtopic.php?p=627891#p627891
That answers the 'What's a R for question...'
So of course many later cars have lost the stamped number when the floor has been replaced.
As regards the other numbers on the top thin long plates, see some of the detail given here:
viewtopic.php?p=627891#p627891
That answers the 'What's a R for question...'
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Re: Chassis number location 1966 convertible
If T is for tourer What would R stand for before number?
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Bill, Are you getting confused between the Chassis number and the Body number? "T" denotes Tourer in the chassis number prefix. I have never seen an "R" in the chassis number.
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Re: Chassis number location 1966 convertible
The change took place later than that. I have a 1965 car with the later dashboard/black speedo and flick switches which has the chassis number stamped into the bulkhead, not the floor .
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Re: Chassis number location 1966 convertible
Bill, Are you getting confused between the Chassis number and the Body number? "T" denotes Tourer in the chassis number prefix. I have never seen an "R" in the chassis number.ManyMinors wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 7:53 pmIf T is for tourer What would R stand for before number?
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The plate on left bulkhead ( right as viewed in your picture) shows a number beginning with a T. That's not your chassis number is it? My plate in same position has R****** not my chassis number.
hence my question but just seen in the answer in the link to topic R = 4door
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Re: Chassis number location 1966 convertible
Interesting, beyond my personal experience as Basil is a SII.ManyMinors wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 7:58 pmThe change took place later than that. I have a 1965 car with the later dashboard/black speedo and flick switches which has the chassis number stamped into the bulkhead, not the floor .
I was just quoting what I had read in Ray Newell's 'Original Morris Minor'.
He says, 'Making a hole in the bulkhead for the new ducting forced a change in the position of the chassis number stamped into the body. On post 1963, etc etc'
Clearly it must've taken them a couple of years to decide on it.
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Re: Chassis number location 1966 convertible
Thank you Geobernigeoberni wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 5:58 pm The Car/Body number was moved from the engine bulkhead to the driver's (RH) floor pan when the Elephant Trunk heater was put through the bulkhead in 1963 ish.
So of course many later cars have lost the stamped number when the floor has been replaced.
As regards the other numbers on the top thin long plates, see some of the detail given here:
viewtopic.php?p=627891#p627891
That answers the 'What's a R for question...'
Regards Bill
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Re: Chassis number location 1966 convertible
Does the body prefix begin Z3488x or Z3605x?ManyMinors wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 7:58 pmThe change took place later than that. I have a 1965 car with the later dashboard/black speedo and flick switches which has the chassis number stamped into the bulkhead, not the floor .
Further investigations uncovered it was an inside job!!
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Re: Chassis number location 1966 convertible
5yr old info, few more amendments to add....geoberni wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 5:58 pm The Car/Body number was moved from the engine bulkhead to the driver's (RH) floor pan when the Elephant Trunk heater was put through the bulkhead in 1963 ish.
So of course many later cars have lost the stamped number when the floor has been replaced.
As regards the other numbers on the top thin long plates, see some of the detail given here:
viewtopic.php?p=627891#p627891
That answers the 'What's a R for question...'
Further investigations uncovered it was an inside job!!